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Web Exclusive Interview
Chris Cester
Chris Cester
The band Jet has released what many consider to be one of the
best rock records of the year, Get Born, which features the hit single (and Apple iPod anthem) "Are You Gonna Be My
Girl."
by Billy
Amendola
Drummer
Chris Cester, along with his brother Nic, Cameron Muncey, and Mark
Wilson, have melded
ambitious, rambunctious classic rock with a fresh
sound, and the result can be heard blasting from radios and TVs the
world
over. The boys from down under have been touring for eighteen
months straight, with no plans of slowing down. MD Online
recently had
the opportunity to speak with Chris on one of his rare days off.
MD: Congratulations, the CD is a
smash here in the States. Chris: Thanks a lot. It's definitely running away from us, isn't
it? MD: How is the tour going? Chris: We're always
on tour. [laughs] We've been
touring for eighteen months now, and it's
going great. We recently sold out a bunch of shows in England. And we
added
a keyboard player, which has brought us up to a new level. We're
kind of meandering off into jams during the set now,
which is great. MD: What are some of your favorite songs to play live? Chris:
I really like playing "Get
What You Need." We've been opening with it
lately because it has an organ intro - which we can do now. I wanted a
big
groove on it. I don't like cymbals much. I only use one cymbal when
I play. MD: Your style does seem to be
more tom-oriented and tribal. Chris:
That's what I'm really into. We're all coming from the Motown
kind of
school - maybe not in the same way as the White Stripes, but songs like
"Get What You Need" definitely reflect that.
MD: How did keyboard legend Billy Preston wind up playing on "Come Around Again" and some other songs on
"Get Born"? Chris:
It was an idea that our producer, Dave Sardy, put to us. We just looked
at him and
said, "Are you joking?" But he said, "No, Billy's in LA.
Let's give him a call.? So we sent him our stuff and he agreed
to come
down and play on the record. We also played in New Orleans with Alan
Tousaint [another keyboard king], and
there's talk of us recording with
[reggae giants] Toots & The Maytals as well, because Toots is a big
fan of the
band. MD: I read that you want to start working on
a new recording after you get off the road, and that you've
already
written some songs. Chris: Oh, yeah. We've written a bunch of
songs while we've been on
tour, but I don't want to make a "touring
record," so I'm a little bit wary of that. You've got to kind of
get
yourself out of gig land, you know? I can't talk for other bands, but
we look at playing live very differently from
recording. Some bands
tend to just re-create what they do on the album, which I think is
utterly boring. We make the
experience as different as possible,
because that's what people are paying for. MD: Are you involved in the
songwriting process? Chris:
Yes. Pretty much the songs with all those tribal drum bits that you
were talking
about are my tracks - "Get What You Need," "Last Chance,"
and "Get Me Outta Here." I also wrote some lyrics for "Move On,"
and I
wrote "Timothy." I definitely pitch in; I played the guitar before I
played the drums. You sort of have to play guitar
or piano to be able to write a song and a melody. MD: Who is Timothy? Chris:
Cameron Munsey, our
guitarist, had a brother Timothy who died before
Cam was even born. So that was a song I wrote for him and his family. I
sing
lead vocals on the song. MD: Do you sing lead on any of the other tracks? Chris: That's me on the
first track, "Last Chance." I sing lead on "Move On" too. MD: "Are You Gonna Be My Girl" appearing in the iPod ad
was great for your notoriety in the States. How did that come about? Chris: Our record company and management
pitched the song to them. It was a really good way to break in America. MD: Let's go back to when you first
started playing. What made you want to play drums, since you were already playing guitar? Chris:
Well, there was
always a guitar laying around the house, because my
brother Nic played. I wasn't very good then, though I've gotten
pretty
good now. The drums was just one of those little kid things, where I
wanted to be different from my brother. [laughs]
And definitely
listening to Led Zeppelin records got me into it. We were listening to
them a lot when I started playing drums. If
you've got any sort of
rhythm in you, the thing about Zeppelin that attracts you first is John
Bonham's playing. And
those drum sounds kill you. As a kid you kind of
sit there and wonder, "Has he got ten arms?" MD: What else were
you listening to? Chris: Abbey Road
was one of the first albums that we heard. It was one of the only
good
records in our dad's collection, which Nic, as a really young child,
managed to weed out from the rest. [laughs] A
lot of people have the
misconception that we grew up on these classic rock 'n' roll records.
Not true at all. We
found all those great records on our own. Nic liked
Abbey Road, Paul McCartney's Band On The Run, Cat
Stevens' Tea For The Tillerman, Stevie Wonder. Our dad's still got the collection, and from time to time I shake
my head and wonder how this ever happened. MD: So Nic would turn you on to these
records. Chris:
Of course, because he was a couple years older, and you just look up to
your older brother that
way. And then it's just like a ladder after
that. Once you know about The Beatles, you start to hear other names
like The
Kinks, and the further into it you get, the more obscure your
influences become. We're listening to this band The Shocking
Blue at
the moment, who that did that song "Venus" years ago. They have a song
called "Send Me A Postcard," which has
the most amazing drum sound for its time. It sounds so modern, like it could be from Get Born. MD:
Did you take lessons at that point? Chris:
I had lessons during high school for a year. But I think if
you're
really going to do it properly, you've got to work it out for yourself,
because then you develop your own style
rather than having some old
geezer going, "Let me show you how to be a rock 'n' roll star." MD: How old
were you when you started playing the drums? Chris: Fifteen. MD: And you're twenty-one
now? Chris: That's right. MD: Being on the road all the time is the best practice you can possibly
do. But if you sat down to practice, what would you do? Chris:
I don't really practice that often because, as
you say, I play a show
every day. It's more about picking up stuff. If you hear the Shocking
Blue record you'll
understand: The drumming has snappy little drum
fills that are just really tasteful and aren't overbearing. I
find
there's a lot of stuff that I'm really getting into now, like French
covers of American R&B songs from the
'60s. They would tighten
everything up. So if I'm sitting down at soundcheck and waiting for the
band, those are the
kinds of things that I run over in my head and try
to figure out. MD: Are there any drummers who you particularly
like now? Chris:
Yeah, there's an amazing drummer in a band called The Stands, from
Liverpool. Their
drummer is phenomenal. He plays in a more minimal
style, but what he's capable of is out of this world. He does a
drum
solo at the end of their set every night that just takes your breath
away. MD: What gear did you use on the
recording? Chris:
We used exciting vintage stuff. Ross Garfield, the Drum Doctor, set me
up with all these
different drums to make one complete drumkit. There'd
be a floor tom from a '67 Ludwig and then a rack tom from a
late '50s
Gretsch. I couldn't tell you exactly what I used because every track
was slightly different. I can tell
you that the bass drum was the same on every track except "Get What You Need," and that was an old 26"
Slingerland. MD: Why did you use vintage drums? Chris:
I just think they sound better. They were
hand-made back then, too, so
you're never going to get the same kind of sound with new gear. Another
reason people
still play them is because they last. I hate it when some
guys have vintage kits but never take them out on tour. It's like,
the
reason they're still working, mate, is because they're built strong. MD: Did you tune your own drums
during the recording? Chris:
No, that was all Ross. He was brilliant. Everyone from Charlie Watts to
Ringo Starr
has wanted to take him out on the road. Everybody knows
he's the best. MD: Greg Fidelman, the engineer,
also must
have had a lot to do with the sound, though the drums have to sound
good before they're
recorded. Chris: Oh yeah, that's the way
Dave Sardy likes to record: get all the sounds right first, that
way
you don't have to do much work in the mix. MD: How did you cut the tracks? Chris: I did all
the drum tracks live, and then we did guitars and vocals and whatnot. MD: What was it like working with Dave
Sardy? Chris:
He has his own way of doing things, so there were a lot of
confrontations at the start of the record.
But we're all really good
friends, so it was never anything personal. He does know the importance
of getting a good drum
sound on a record. MD: As I run down some song
titles, tell me what pops into your head. "Last
Chance." Chris:
That starts with me going, "Can you just give me one more try?" Sardy
felt that Nic should sing
that song, but I thought my voice was more
suited, so he let me have a go at it. He was trying to kick me out of
there quicker,
though. But I nailed the final take and he left it on
there. MD: "Are You Gonna Be My Girl." Chris: That
happened very quickly. After a couple of takes to get into the groove, it was easy. MD: "Rollover
DJ." Chris:
There's a section in the middle where I do my little thing for a bit.
That part used to be a lot
longer and crazier - kind of more Keith
Moon-esque - but we chopped it a bit. MD: "Look What You've
Done." Chris: That kind of reflected a Beatles influence for me. MD: "Get What You
Need." Chris:
That track was the most fun to record, and it's the most fun to play
live. I can remember
saying to Dave Sardy that I wanted the drums to be
right up front on that one. I just love all the different grooves and
stuff that I
can get into. MD: There's no drums on "Move On." Chris: Yeah, but I sang lead on that
track. MD: How is singing live and playing? Chris: It's easy for me. I wouldn't have written the
song if I couldn't sing it from behind the kit. MD: "Cold Hard Bitch." Chris:
That's just stupid
words from stupid teenage kids. We wrote that song
five years ago, and now I'm paying for the mistakes of being naive
and
green. [laughs] You've got to be a little bit dangerous or else you're
boring, aren't you? MD:
"Come Around Again." Chris:
Nic and Cam wrote that together. That was one that Billy Preston played
on, so I
had drool coming out of my mouth when I played on it. MD: Billy's played with both The Stones and The
Beatles. Chris: Yeah, and they're my favorite bands! MD: What do you like about Ringo's
drumming? Chris:
I love that hokey style of drumming, which I kind of use on the track
"Lazy Gun." And I love the
way he sweeps over the kit; he makes the
longest fills of all time. Very tasteful, though. MD: Kind of what you do -
play for the song. Chris:
Exactly. He also had some of the best musicians of all time in the
studio with him telling
him how to go about making records. When you've
got people like that behind you, it's hard to make a crap drum
track.
For more on Chris's playing, check out "Off The Record" in the June '04 issue of Modern
Drummer.
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